Jack Albrecht
1 min readSep 21, 2023

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So I lay out a factual, western-corroborated timeline of events and your push back is that it "echos [sic] the Russian propaganda line?" That phrase is so nebulous and trite it has become equivalent to, "I don't like the facts, so I'll just call it 'Russian propaganda' and pretend I have refuted it." So if Russia says that Nazi Germany invaded Poland in 1938 is that Russian propaganda?

There is a difference between the political and military goals of Russia. Ukraine declaring neutrality and no entry into NATO "ever" is political. Ukraine being "demilitarized" and/or "de-Nazified" are military objectives that (IMO) are too nebulous to agree to without Ukraine becoming a complete vassal to Russia.

Russia clearly doesn't "want" all of Ukraine, with the caveat there that neither of us can "know" what Russia wants. We are both speculating.

What is a FACT (again) is that when Luhansk and Donetsk seceded from Ukraine in 2014 BOTH of those Oblasts wanted to join the Russian Federation. Russia said, "Nyet." And "Nyet" stayed "Nyet" for 8 years as both of those regions were in a brutal, unending civil war with the central Ukrainian government in Kyiv.

Russia IMO definitely does not want western Ukraine for the simple reasons that they are not predominantly ethnic Russians (as in the East), they hate the Russians (you can see this in all the elections from 1991 to 2022), and Russia would basically have an occupation and not an annexation, with all the massive costs that come with that.

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Jack Albrecht
Jack Albrecht

Written by Jack Albrecht

US expatriate living in the EU; seeing the world from both sides of the Atlantic.

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